Koray Kavukcuoglu: “This is How We Are Going to Build AGI”

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Join Logan Kilpatrick and Koray Kavukcuoglu, CTO of Google DeepMind and Chief AI Architect of Google, as they discuss Gemini 3 and the state of AI!

Their conversation includes the reception of Gemini 3, the ongoing advancements in AI research, and the role of benchmarks in pushing new frontiers. They explore critical areas for Gemini’s focus, emphasizing instruction following, tool calls, and internationalization, alongside Google’s collaborative approach to AI development.

Listen to this podcast:
Apple Podcasts → https://goo.gle/3Bm7QzQ
Spotify → https://goo.gle/3ZL3ADl

Chapters:
0:00 – Intro
2:00 – Gemini 3 launch reception
4:16 – Continuous progress and innovation
6:47 – Key areas for Gemini improvement
11:45 – Product scaffolding for model improvement
13:56 – Chief AI architect role
17:04 – Engineering mindset and collaboration
18:37 – Future growth areas for Gemini
20:33 – From research to engineering mindset
23:22 – The rise of generative media
27:22 – Nano Banana Pro capabilities
29:31 – Towards unified model checkpoints
36:26 – Organizing for AI success
38:26 – Balancing exploration and scaling
41:40 – DeepMind’s collaborative culture
45:21 – Innovating at Google
48:37 – Closing